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I need an experienced PHP developer with a solid understanding of Stripe's payment platform. This project's main objective is to develop a script that sends a post request to Stripe for over-capturing an authorized payment. The over-capture is performed to modify payment details, specifically the amount billed due to additional charges accrued. Expertise in handling Stripe’s transactional operations and PHP post request handling is necessary. Skills Required: - Proficiency in PHP - Extensive experience with Stripe API - Familiarity with financial transaction processes - Strong problem-solving abilities

I need an experienced PHP developer to help with customizing a PHP script. The specific details of the modifications are: - User Authentication: Implement an effective user authentication system. - Database Integration: Ensure seamless integration with our existing database. - UI/UX Enhancements: Enhance the user interface and user experience of the script. Please note that the specific PHP script has not been disclosed, and further details regarding the script's functionalities have not been provided. The successful freelancer will need to be able to navigate and modify PHP scripts efficiently and have a good understanding of user authentication, database integration, and UI/UX principles. Your expertise in PHP and familiarity with various scrip...

...skilled professional to help with the maintenance of my websites built with core PHP and MySQL. Key Tasks: - Website changes: Regular content updates and design changes are anticipated, so the candidate should have flexibility and be comfortable with changes. - Feature Additions: I'm looking to extend the functionality of the websites, so the candidate should be able to implement new features. - Bug fixes: It's essential for the candidate to have a keen eye for identifying and fixing bugs that may arise within the websites. - Security updates: The candidate should be able to stay up-to-date with the latest security trends and ensure the websites are secure. - Performance optimization: A deep understanding of PHP and MySQL is required to optimize the performance...

App Version 1.6 Laravel Version 7.30.6 PHP Version 7.4.33 Extension IonCube Loader is installed License code "To handle the Codegyan scripts. This was a prepaid version with multiple restaurants. This website is only for the orders that roll. As I checked, the speed is slow due to the JavaScript library not working properly. We need to update HTML for all three panels: user, restaurants, driver. Do you want to integrate new HTML? I need to remove the Livewire from my website. Delete all files not important for the website and logically structure all pages of the files. The website will only be used for delivery. Everything else must be deleted. Current version." musst be updated to the new version

I'm looking for a skilled PHP developer to create a web system primarily focused on data analysis. The system will serve as a platform for users to perform detailed data analysis. Key features to include: - User Registration and Login: The system should have a secure user registration and login functionality to keep the data protected. - Various Search Modules: I would like the system to have search capabilities by name, date, and category. This will allow users to slice and dice through data effectively. Ideal skills and experience: - Proficiency in PHP: As the core technology of this project, you should have a strong background in PHP. - Data Analysis Expertise: Experience in building systems that cater to data analysis will be a huge plus. - Security ...

Hello I have a web app that im building for my customers. And I already hired someone to setup the sign up pag...sign up page.. All you have to do is add the google sign up and finish setting up the backend for the setting pages. I also added notes to my prototype design explaning each feature. React JS is used for the front end. And the PHP Laravel was used to start this project. I would like to pay $150 - 200 for this project. If the work goes well then I will use your services to finish building the rest of the features. Im also building a software company here in america so for the right person i can provide work for years!!! I would like to hire someone today.

I am looking for a...help in enhancing a Telegram PHP bot. With your skills and experience in bot programming, I am confident we can have this bot become even better. As part of this project, you need to: 1. Customize Bot Commands: - Add new commands as per the specific requirements I will share. 2. Change Chatbot Responses: - Modify existing responses in a way that improves the user engagement. - Delete some responses that are no longer relevant. 3. Integrate Third-Party APIs: - This integration will help the bot offer more utilities and functionalities. The ideal candidate for this project should have extensive knowledge in Telegram bot development, PHP, Python, and experience in third-party API integration. I look forward to your proposal...

Hi Freelancers, (URGENT) : need this Today ! I have a codecanyon script, please check it here : I need to use whatsapp only, don't need SMS feature, I have a VPS without control panel and I want to install it and make whatsapp works without any problem. Thanks Amine

Php developer for a web portal ( College search engine cum admission portal )

I'm having a problem while I am trying to install Laravel and Composer. It needed to install brew. I have installed brew but now I can't install php and composer. There was a problem while I installed the brew. Now I need to uninstall brew and install brew again and then install PHP, composer, and anything else that needs to run Laravel. I am adding a screenshot please check it carefully. If you can help me then apply for it. You will help me through google meet or zoom call. I will do it and you will guide me.

I'm in need of a proficient PHP developer to create a custom code for communicating with an Ingenico POS terminal via Ethernet. Here are the specifics of the project: - **Communication Method:** The primary method for the communication is through Ethernet. You need to be well-versed in this type of communication to tackle this task efficiently. - **Transaction Handling:** The main purpose of the code is to transmit the amount to the terminal and verify if the transaction can be successfully processed. **Requirements**: - experience in PHP - Prior experience with Ingenico POS terminals or similar devices is a plus Please note that this project is solely for the communication between the system and the terminal. There is no need for integration with the b...

I need a PHP Laravel system developed for my salon. It should include features for appointment booking, client management, and inventory management. Key Features: - Appointment Booking: The system should allow clients to schedule appointments easily. - Client Management: It should have a database for client management, allowing us to store and access information about our customers. - Inventory Management: The system should also include a feature for managing our salon's inventory. Design: I do not have a design or template for this system. Therefore, I'm looking for a developer who is skilled in creating a user-friendly and aesthetically pleasing interface. Online Payments: While the system should support appointment booking, I do not require online payment processing....

I am seeking a PHP developer who is experienced in frontend development, and an expert in PHP frameworks and MySQL database integration. The focal point of the project is database management. • Main responsibility of the PHP developer will be to build new databases, thus experience in this is essential. • A background working with PHP frameworks and MySQL is crucial for success in this role. • The role also entails some front-end development tasks. Successful applicants will illustrate these skills throughout their portfolio in relation to past projects. If you are a self-starter with a penchant for database management, I look forward to receiving your bid.

Hi, we are looking for a PHP developer who can train the ChatGPT API with our custom data. This way, we can set predefined custom data for the chatbot, allowing it to respond solely based on our saved data. All work will be done using core PHP.

I'm looking for a skilled Laravel PHP developer to help me make some functionality changes to my website. This will involve adding new features to the website. The changes required include: - Implementing a user registration/login system - Creating an interactive user dashboard Ideal candidates should have: - Extensive experience with Laravel PHP - Strong knowledge of web applications and databases - Prior experience in implementing user management systems - A creative approach to designing interactive user interfaces Please note that the website is already up and running, the task is to add these new features without affecting the existing functionality. It's crucial that the changes are seamless and user-friendly.

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...functionality bugs with my Laravel PHP scripts. I am seeking a skilled Laravel developer who can fix these issues and perform a minor customization of the scripts. The ideal candidate for this job should: - Have extensive experience with Laravel PHP - this includes, but is not limited to, fixing bugs, optimizing performance, and customizing scripts. - Be able to generate a detailed project proposal outlining their approach to the tasks at hand. - Understand that while I don't have previous or competitor projects to use as an example, I do have specific ideas about what my desired outcomes are. Your proposal should demonstrate understanding of these requirements and propose a solution to address the issues. If you love problem solving and have the right ski...

I'm seeking an experienced PHP developer to help me address some pressing issues with my website. Key responsibilities include: - Resolving error messages that are currently present on the site - Adding a new function to the website: specifically, facilitating the editing of existing customer information in the database The ideal candidate for this role will have: - Proficient in PHP and MySQL - Prior experience in resolving error messages - Knowledge of and experience with customer database management Please provide your bid, along with your relevant experience, for this project.

I'm in need of a PHP developer to handle a variety of tasks related to both web development and database management. Your skill set should include PHP and experience in working with SDKs and APIs. Ideally, your expertise aligns with the following requirements: - PHP Web Development: You should be proficient in PHP and capable of working on web development projects. - Database Management: You'll be expected to handle database management tasks, so experience in this area is a plus. - SDK and API Integration: While the specific SDKs and APIs have not been detailed, having experience in integrating SDKs and APIs is desirable. Your understanding of these areas will be crucial in delivering quality work for this project.

I'm seeking an experienced PHP Symfony developer with expertise in Doctrine ORM and MySQL, to help build various functions within our SaaS. - Objective: The main goal of this project is to build up several functions within our existing SaaS platform. - Design Guidelines: You are required to follow specific design guidelines that are already in place for this SaaS platform. Ideal Candidates: - Proficiency in PHP and Symfony with a focus on building and extending SaaS platforms. - Experience with Doctrine ORM and MySQL is a must. - Strong understanding of security principles especially around key/token use. - Experience building headless systems that are for integration with over API. - Ability to follow existing design guidelines while implementing the required ...

Please read the entire job post, before you bid. I'm in urgent need of a skilled PHP developer to create a comprehensive user registration form for a website. The form should feature essential capabilities such as: - User Registration: The form should allow users to register for the website in the MySQL. - Data Validation: The form should include robust data validation to ensure that all fields are correctly filled in. - Email Confirmation: Following registration, an email confirmation system should be in place to confirm the user's email address. Notes: User selects a username, this must not be in the DB already. Email and phone should also be unique in the DB. Also there is a need to check if the username of a referral exists in DB. Page design is done, no work for ...

I need a fast turnaround to correct error messages in my PHP code and database. The main goal of my PHP application is to upload content to the database and ensure the site displays it correctly. Key Responsibilities: - Fixing error messages in PHP code - Addressing database issues - Ensuring smooth content uploading functionality - Ensuring the site can retrieve and display content from the database Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficient in PHP - Strong understanding of database management - Prior experience in troubleshooting and fixing error messages - Ability to work fast and deliver under tight deadlines.

I am searching for a Chinese SEO writer based in Malaysia who can craft compelling and informative content on personal finance and investing. Here's what I need: - Over 20 articles, each more than 1000 words. - Deep understanding of personal finance and investing topics. - Proficient in SEO best practices. Skills and experience desired: - Native Chinese speaker based in Malaysia. - SEO writing experience is essential. - Proven expertise in finance-related topics, particularly personal finance and investing. - Able to write engaging content for a diverse audience. Your role requires you to research and create reader-friendly content, while maintaining the accuracy of the finance-related information. If you can strike the right balance between informative and compellin...

Hello, freelancers. If you are open to work, please reply me as soon as possible. We are going to migrate web2 to web3. There are 2 positions in this job. - Migration work from nodejs backend to smart contract - Integration nextjs frontend with blockchain After this project complete, we will give you some bounty and loyalty If you are online, join to this job. *** If you are new to freelancing, dont join to this job ***

I have a php script website that lets me enter employee hours. been 1 month it has been extremely slow when I enter a new entry loading takes a long time. Need to fix. Also if able to add feature such as bulk entry and ability to write notes on an entry.

...need a PHP script created that integrates with the XTB Trading API to perform 5 key functions. i have already done the and have got the session_ID token. This is an easy project and this should take around 4 to 5 hour max for a good PHP Coder Key Functions: - **Login**: The script should be able to log in to the XTB Trading API using the provided login credentials and OAuth token. - **Get Current Trades**: The script should be able to retrieve information for current trades, specifically the Trade ID. - **Open Trade**: Allow creating a new trade using the API. - **Delete Trade**: Allow deleting an existing trade. - **Create / Delete Order**: Implement the ability to create or delete an order. Key Requirements: - Expertise in PHP and API

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I need a skilled PHP, JS, and Bootstrap developer who can create two pages for me. The first page will be based on Mapbox and should offer zoom in/out functionality. The second page will be used for adding new pins to the map dataset. Here's what I'm looking for in each page: - **Mapbox Page** - Implement zoom in/out functionality. - **Add New Pins Page** - Allow users to add new pins by typing the beginning of an address, which will then be automatically found using the Mapbox Geocoding API. - Display an overlay with basic info about the new pin. Ideal Skills & Experience: - Proficiency in PHP, JS, and Bootstrap - Prior experience with Mapbox and its Geocoding API - Strong understanding of UI/UX principles for web applications - Ability to create seamle...

I'm running a new PHP script on Linux and it's not pulling data correctly from an MSSQL Database. Since the script is new, I'd appreciate some help identifying what went wrong. Skillsets and Experience Needed: - Proficiency with PHP and MSSQL databases - Experience troubleshooting PHP script issues in a Linux environment - Experience with new script debugging - Knowledge of database connectivity issues and their solutions - Ability to communicate complex technical issues clearly

I have an old web project built on PHP 5 and MySQL. I need a skilled developer to migrate the project to PHP 8. Skills and Experience Needed: - Expertise in PHP and MySQL - Proficiency in web development - Experience in migrating legacy code

I worked incredibly hard for ov...nowhere else to be found. (399 USD, INCLUDED!) ➡️ Numerous attachments with client conversation pipelines, strategies, tools and much more! (199 USD, INCLUDED!) ➡️ Dive into biweekly live streams with the masters, ask anything you want, and pick up secrets they don't just share with anyone. (100 USD per hour, INCLUDED!) ➡️ An overview with my thoughts of all newsletters I'm subscribed to in freelancing/AI/Digital, giving you the edge you need. (99 a month, INCLUDED!) ➡️ ️Personal guidance & mentoring from best freelancers (From 80-120 USD per hour, INCLUDED!) Worth THOUSANDS of dollars, it’s yours for only 129 USD a year.. Be quick, as the price can go up at any moment.. I’m looking forward to seeing you on the inside...

I'm in need of an intermediate PHP developer from Egypt who can handle both frontend and backend development to perform a specific task on an existing project . Key Requirements: - Intermediate level of experience in PHP. - Proficiency in both frontend and backend development. - Experience with a variety of web development tools and frameworks. Looking forward to your bids!

As the manager of this project, I'm in need of an experienced PHP developer who is skilled in both front-end and back-end development to join our team. Responsibilities will include: - Front-end and back-end development - Efficient integrations with e-commerce platforms Below are the ideal skills and experience I'm looking for: - Proficiency in PHP - Proven experience with HTML/CSS and JavaScript - Ability to integrate with e-commerce platforms is a must Applicants with prior experience on e-commerce projects will have an advantage. If you are result-driven, have an eye for detail, and are adept in PHP and the aforementioned languages, don't hesitate to bid on this project.

I'm seeking an experienced PHP developer specialised in both front-end and back-end development. The main task is to build an e-commerce website from scratch. Proficiency in various PHP frameworks is required, coupled with a deep understanding of front-end technologies. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Extensive expertise in PHP Frameworks - Proficiency in front-end and back-end development - Proven experience in building e-commerce websites from the ground up.

I'm looking for a skilled PHP developer who will be responsible for converting dynamic HTML, generated by PHP, into a PDF form for printing purposes. Key Responsibilities: - Convert dynamic HTML into smooth, printable PDFs - Ensuring the converted files maintain their original layout and quality Ideal Candidate: - High proficiency in PHP, HTML, and PDF conversion - Previous experience working on similar projects - Meticulous with an eye for detail to maintain design consistency.

I'm in need of an experienced fullstack developer who will help me determine an effective solution for my project. -Proficiency in Python, specifically Django and Flask, and PHP, particularly Laravel and CodeIgniter, is a must. -Despite skipping on certain details, I presume features such as user authentication and database management, plus API integration may be needed. -I haven't chosen a design yet but preferably, I'm looking forward to someone who can contribute to the style discussion. Your experience in multifaceted projects will be a huge plus.

I worked incredibly hard for ov...nowhere else to be found. (399 USD, INCLUDED!) ➡️ Numerous attachments with client conversation pipelines, strategies, tools and much more! (199 USD, INCLUDED!) ➡️ Dive into biweekly live streams with the masters, ask anything you want, and pick up secrets they don't just share with anyone. (100 USD per hour, INCLUDED!) ➡️ An overview with my thoughts of all newsletters I'm subscribed to in freelancing/AI/Digital, giving you the edge you need. (99 a month, INCLUDED!) ➡️ ️Personal guidance & mentoring from best freelancers (From 80-120 USD per hour, INCLUDED!) Worth THOUSANDS of dollars, it’s yours for only 129 USD a year.. Be quick, as the price can go up at any moment.. I’m looking forward to seeing you on the inside...

I need a proficient PHP developer to custom-build an Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software. This software should ideally include functionalities that cover the entire operation of a business: - Inventory Management - Accounting system - Human Resource Management - CRM - Project Management - Scrum This ERP system needs to be scalable, supporting an unlimited number of users. It is important that it can accommodate business growth without necessitating major system changes or upgrades. I'm looking for a professional with experience in building ERP systems, a strong understanding of business processes, and proficiency in PHP. Given the urgency of this project, I require someone who can deliver quality work promptly. As such, the ability to meet stric...

I'm looking for a skilled Wordpress/PHP programmer to assist with theme customization and troubleshooting on client sites. The ideal freelancer will: - Have a strong background in Wordpress, Ecommerce and PHP - Be experienced in theme customization - Proven track record of troubleshooting - Excellent communication skills - Previous work samples showcasing your skills Please include your past work experience in your application. I'd like to review your portfolio and see how your skills align with my project. I prefer to communicate via email for all project-related matters.

I have a backend code for a pre-existing fully function website and mobile app. The backend code is currently all written in php. I need someone to convert this existing php code into fully functional python code which I can deploy.

I need a skilled PHP developer with experience in MySQL to swiftly integrate a database into a website. The front-end (HTML & CSS) has been completed, the back-end is what needs to be done. Key Details: - The project is time-sensitive; I need it completed within a week - The specific requirement is to handle and display auto parts data Ideal Skills: - Proficiency in PHP and MySQL - Proven experience in back-end development - Knowledge of database integration in web development - Ability to understand and work with existing HTML and CSS code Please bid only if you're confident in meeting the timeframe and have the necessary experience in both PHP and MySQL.

I am seeking freelance interpreters to assist with communication in Indonesia (Jakarta), Thailand (Bangkok), Singapore, and Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur/Penang). Interpreters should possess proficiency in at least one of the following language pairs: - Indonesian to Chinese - Thai to Chinese - Malay to Chinese - English to Chinese **Key Requirements** - Location: Jakarta, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur/Penang - Duration: Full day (up to 8 hours) Ideal candidates should have the following qualifications: - Fluency in Indonesian, Thai, and Mandarin Chinese - Extensive experience in interpretation - Excellent communication and interpersonal skills - Familiarity with local customs and business etiquette in respective countries - Punctuality and reliability - Willingness to ensure smooth ...

I am seeking freelance interpreters to assist with communication in Indonesia (Jakarta), Thailand (Bangkok), Singapore, and Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur/Penang). Interpreters should possess proficiency in at least one of the following language pairs: - Indonesian to Chinese - Thai to Chinese - Malay to Chinese - English to Chinese **Key Requirements** - Location: Jakarta, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur/Penang - Duration: Full day (up to 8 hours) Ideal candidates should have the following qualifications: - Fluency in Indonesian, Thai, and Mandarin Chinese - Extensive experience in interpretation - Excellent communication and interpersonal skills - Familiarity with local customs and business etiquette in respective countries - Punctuality and reliability - Willingness to ensure smooth ...

I am seeking freelance interpreters to assist with communication in Indonesia (Jakarta), Thailand (Bangkok), Singapore, and Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur/Penang). Interpreters should possess proficiency in at least one of the following language pairs: - Indonesian to Chinese - Thai to Chinese - Malay to Chinese - English to Chinese **Key Requirements** - Location: Jakarta, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur/Penang - Duration: Full day (up to 8 hours) Ideal candidates should have the following qualifications: - Fluency in Indonesian, Thai, and Mandarin Chinese - Extensive experience in interpretation - Excellent communication and interpersonal skills - Familiarity with local customs and business etiquette in respective countries - Punctuality and reliability - Willingness to ensure smooth ...

I'm currently encountering an issue with JSON encoding in PHP PDO. Here's what needs to be resolved: - Problem: I'm dealing with a type casting error when trying to encode an associative array to JSON using PHP PDO. - Task: The main task will involve inspecting PDO MySQL queries, identifying the root cause of the type casting error, and implementing a solution that will ensure successful JSON encoding. - Skills Needed: The ideal freelancer needs to have a solid understanding of PHP PDO, JSON, MySQL queries, and experience with troubleshooting type casting errors—particularly within the context of encoding associative arrays to JSON. Your expertise will be invaluable in resolving this problem.

I need an experienced web developer to resolve a critical issue on our website that uses a JavaScript framework and PHP. All files and the database have been transferred from one URL to another, but the website is now malfunctioning. I need this fixed as soon as possible. Key Requirements: - Expertise in JavaScript framework (Prototype) and PHP - Strong troubleshooting skills - Proven experience in resolving website migration issues Ideal Skills: - Familiarity with common web browsers like Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, and Safari - Ability to work under tight deadlines The issues we're experiencing are: - Layout appears broken - Interactive elements not working - Content not loading Please only bid if you can start immediately and have a proven track record of fixi...

...Development of a clear, targeted marketing strategy to increase my exposure to potential clients. - Guidance on best practices for engaging with prospects and converting them into clients. - Tips on creating compelling project proposals to stand out among competitors. The ideal candidate will have: - A strong track record in marketing, specifically within the Freelancer.com platform. - Success in personal branding and lead generation for freelancers. - Excellent communication skills and the ability to provide actionable insights. - Knowledge of the latest trends in logo design and freelancing to keep my services competitive. Together, we will work towards building a strong online presence that reflects the quality of my work and attracts the right clientele, ensuring a s...

I need a developer to build a PHP app using Google Sheets as a database. I want add a text on a field it'll to fetch rest row and column data from sheet. Check attachment. I'll enter only order number. This will involve: - Implementing a User Authentication system. Note that no specific features like social media authentication, two-step verification, or forgot password functionality are required. Just a simple log-in/log-out system will suffice. - Data validation will be key in this project. Each entry must be checked to ensure that it meets certain criteria before being stored in the sheet. - Real-time data synchronization between the app and Google Sheets. This means that any changes made in the app should be instantly reflected in the sheet, and vice versa. ...

...currently experiencing undetermined internal server errors in my Orange HRM application. I am in need of a reliable and experienced PHP developer who can help identify and rectify these issues. Key aspects of this project include: - Determining and rectifying the causes of the internal server errors. - Experience with Orange HRM is not mandatory but could be a major plus. - Though the problem is currently limited to server errors, there may be potential for further tasks such as optimizing existing features or creating new ones. I have made attempts previously to solve these errors. However, the remaining issues suggest that the expertise of a knowledgeable PHP developer is required. If you have experience in handling similar situations and have consistently resol...

I'm on the lookout for a proficient PHP developer with a keen eye for design to modify and customize a Colibrism PHP script, predominantly fashioned like Twitter. Here's what I need: 1. Color Scheme and Layout Alterations: - The current font type and color does not match my vision. Your eye for aesthetics should lead you to choose a combination that heightens user experience. - An adjustment of the navigation menu is required to make it user-friendly and intuitive. - I also expect a reworked header and footer design that better represents my brand. 2. Feature Addition and Functionality Enhancement: - In this project, we'll onboard new features and functionalities. The specifics will be discussed upon commencement, but expect them ...